Last year my ‘Lorelei’ made a flower much lighter than the original, special neon-orange-reddish pink colour (how to describe the colour of ‘Lorelei’ – impossible!) . I will check if this happens again, and then isolate the part of the root.
Has this happened to any of you?9 Comments@ruud Mine comes from Ruud; it would be interesting to know the name 🙂 ‘Lorelei’ is a slow grower, and seems to wander off, now some stems grow well apart from the main plant.
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I do have a selection from my Lorelei. Found this mutation in 2011, in the week that my (not-so-little-girl-anymore) was born. Logic and with the heart in my head, I have garden named it after her: Nikita. Ever since I have been monitoring this mutation, to see if remains stabile. And so far it does. I have been propagating it…Read MoreDear Ruud, thanks for your prompt reply. I did write once about this (with photos) on the APS Fb group, addressing Don H, but never received any comments or replies from anyone. I had just one flower (last year) on a stem in the corner of the plant (which seems to have an officinalis tendency to wander around). I will keep a close eye on the…Read More
Actually the crawling habit might be more the peregrina pedigree (it is believed that Rubra Plena etc. are of peregrina pedigree also). For me Lorelei is a wonderful grower. True, the first two years it can be slow compared to others. But then… It just takes off! I am picking 15-20 stems per plant from my cut flower block (picture) every year.
I…Read MoreMy Rubra Plena is all over the place and peregrina stays put. Hm….How wonderful it would be if this blonde version of ‘Lorelei’ was a ‘Nikita’ – you know I have it on my wish list since you showed me the photo for some years ago, but I never thought it would be a Lorelei mutation. I will certainly keep you posted, and hugs to the Real N.
@ruud – found a very bad photo of the plant from last year with both flower colours.
Very odd, to me. No double appearances in my Lorelei’s nor in my “Nikita’s”. My selection is 100% similar to Lorelei, in every aspect. And my Nikita with long hair enjoyed your hug very much!
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From the Facebook ‘Planet Peony’ group by Bob Johnson, May 24, 2017. As it’s hidden in the ‘stream’ of activities in that group, it’s unlikely that you’d easily find it, which is a pity as it’s an informative

Bob commented on the post, "Serendipity"
Looks pretty encouraging Koen !
This spring I had a row of about 100 seedlings that bloomed, which were part of a push I made to get good early white hybrids. We selected 16 of them to dig and divide, and then
Luriel commented on the post, Red Windflower
I grow this later windflower strain with the Tolomeo ten as father
Seidl is mentioned – i got 5 different plants of this strain – but only 3 of them has survived
For many years they did not set any seeds..
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@ruud Ruud Warmerdam has such a mutation from Lorelei if I recall correctly. I think he even named it, but I don’t remember how. Nice colour, but Lorelei never has been a good grower for me.