Last year my ‘Lorelei’ made a flower much lighter than the original, special neon-orange-reddish pink colour (how to describe the colour of ‘Lorelei’ – impossible!) . I will check if this happens again, and then isolate the part of the root.
Has this happened to any of you?9 Comments@ruud Mine comes from Ruud; it would be interesting to know the name 🙂 ‘Lorelei’ is a slow grower, and seems to wander off, now some stems grow well apart from the main plant.
@leena @khurtekant
I do have a selection from my Lorelei. Found this mutation in 2011, in the week that my (not-so-little-girl-anymore) was born. Logic and with the heart in my head, I have garden named it after her: Nikita. Ever since I have been monitoring this mutation, to see if remains stabile. And so far it does. I have been propagating it also, and if that all continues to be stabile after the 4th cycle (next year), then I plan to bring it up for registration with the APS.So Leena, do you only have 1 stem on your plant with these orangy yellow flowers, or is the whole bush with them? If so, then you are either very lucky to have received a part of my original mutation (maybe a root stub mixed in my stock with Lorelei again), or maybe Lorelei can do this mutation more often. But then I would be surprised nobody else has seen or reported this phenomenon before.
Dear Ruud, thanks for your prompt reply. I did write once about this (with photos) on the APS Fb group, addressing Don H, but never received any comments or replies from anyone. I had just one flower (last year) on a stem in the corner of the plant (which seems to have an officinalis tendency to wander around). I will keep a close eye on the plant, maybe it will reoccur and in that case, I should divide the plant so that the little alien ca grow on her own. My plant is from you, purchased in 2014. Not a speedy grower, but the fantastic flowers compensate for that.
Actually the crawling habit might be more the peregrina pedigree (it is believed that Rubra Plena etc. are of peregrina pedigree also). For me Lorelei is a wonderful grower. True, the first two years it can be slow compared to others. But then… It just takes off! I am picking 15-20 stems per plant from my cut flower block (picture) every year.
I have never seen only 1 stem with the mutated flower on a plant. Always all or nothing.
Keep me posted on the development of your “Nikita”! 🙂My Rubra Plena is all over the place and peregrina stays put. Hm….How wonderful it would be if this blonde version of ‘Lorelei’ was a ‘Nikita’ – you know I have it on my wish list since you showed me the photo for some years ago, but I never thought it would be a Lorelei mutation. I will certainly keep you posted, and hugs to the Real N.
@ruud – found a very bad photo of the plant from last year with both flower colours.
Very odd, to me. No double appearances in my Lorelei’s nor in my “Nikita’s”. My selection is 100% similar to Lorelei, in every aspect. And my Nikita with long hair enjoyed your hug very much!

@ruud Ruud Warmerdam has such a mutation from Lorelei if I recall correctly. I think he even named it, but I don’t remember how. Nice colour, but Lorelei never has been a good grower for me.